Lots of Prop. 8 trial related news over the past couple days.
Mike Signorile posted his interview with lead lawyer, Ted Olson, here. Mike wrote:
Was an interesting discussion, and I must say that if you asked me just three years ago if I'd be speaking with George W. Bush's solicitor general about gay equality and how to advance it, I'd say you were nuts. But on LGBT rights, times, and people, do change.I'll admit it. I'm glad Ted Olson is on our side.
Karen Ocamb has the schedule for the hearing:
The court just released the schedule for those arguments:And, yesterday, Rick Jacobs, from the Courage Campaign, wrote a post on Judge Vaughn Walker's questions to the attorneys for both sides:
10:00 AM – 11:30 AM Plaintiffs (argued by Ted Olson and David Boies)
11:30 AM – 11:45 AM City and County of San Francisco
11:45 AM – 12:00 PM Governor, Attorney General and county defendants
12:00 PM – 1:00 PM Lunch
1:00 PM – 3:15 PM Proponents (argued by Charles Cooper)
3:15 PM – 3:45 PM Plaintiffs’ rebuttal
The closing arguments will be followed by news conferences, presumably from at least the Plaintiff and Proponents side.
The questions are stunning in their breadth, complexity and essence. Here are just a few:The decision in this case could be life-changing. And, it will undoubtedly set us on a path to the Supreme Court. That's where the LGBT community may have the best chance to achieve full equality. Because, politicians aren't helping us get there.What empirical data, if any, supports a finding that legal recognition of same-sex marriage reduces discrimination against gays and lesbians?I am not a lawyer, but I can without doubt say that never before has homosexuality been on trial in America in this way.
What are the consequences of a permanent injunction against enforcement of Proposition 8? What remedies do plaintiffs propose?
If the evidence of the involvement of the LDS and Roman Catholic churches and evangelical ministers supports a finding that Proposition 8 was an attempt to enforce private morality, what is the import of that finding?
The court has reserved ruling on plaintiffs' motion to exclude Mr Blankenhorn's testimony. If the motion is granted, is there any other evidence to support a finding that Proposition 8 advances a legitimate governmental interest?
Why is legislating based on moral disapproval of homosexuality not tantamount to discrimination? See Doc #605 at 11 ("But sincerely held moral or religious views that require acceptance and love of gay people, while disapproving certain aspects of their conduct, are not tantamount to discrimination."). What evidence in the record shows that a belief based in morality cannot also be discriminatory? If that moral point of view is not held and is disputed by a small but significant minority of the community, should not an effort to enact that moral point of view into a state constitution be deemed a violation of equal protection?
What does it mean to have a "choice" in one's sexual orientation? See e g Tr 2032:17-22; PX 928 at 37
